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There is a big difference between leasing and owning property. If Generally Accepted Accounting Principles say that they are the same, I would suggest that Generally Accepted Accounting Principles have a problem.

Just as a general observation, I think we should make the decisions we have to make concerning facility issues based educational objectives in combination with relevant financial considerations, on not on the basis of where a bunch of accountants arbitrarily choose to locate the results of such a decision on a balance sheet.

Gee, I thought you were going to talk about the uses of accrual accounting for Social Security and Medicare. If the students of District 281 get out of a high school and somehow find a job, they will find that their new status as taxpayers places them in $1/2 million of debt on day one, from these two programs alone. Accounting can make the problem clear, but it cannot solve it.

There is, in fact,, a big difference between owning and owning property. My Father-in-law was a principle architect with Minneapolis City Schools for many years before he retired. His primary function was to adapt leased space to then, current district needs to best serve the needs of the students and the district. My point is that perhaps we should be considering a pardigm shift in school district planning that stops depending on owning and maintaining bricks and mortar structures to provide the best educational experience for students.

There has been a lot of dialog about "virtual learning" in the 21st century perhaps now, when we have 50 year old buildings in need of major remodeling or rebuilding, it is time to consider getting school districts out of the building and maintenance of facilities and to focus their increasingly limited funds on the education of students that is their primary function.

I went the long way around the barn to say that the district is already in the tall grass regardless Nothport and Lakeview, i.e., at least $40 million will need to be spent in the next 10 years or less. The plan will address the problem long term for the rest of the aging buildings. The "committee" might decide that newer (1964+) buildings are good for 100 years. Fine. That's at least a plan.

We could make all of these arguments moot if we were to adopt a plan which included vouchers and tax credits. Let the market build the new schools. End of problem.

Now, let's sell that to Education Minnesota and the ed lobby!

Never in history, has a market built a school.

Nonsense. How do you think all of these charter schools acquired the properties that some are complaining about? How do you think all existing private schools found a place for their endeavors? "The market" is a huge thing, encompassing essentially all VOLUNTARY economic activity. You could even argue that when voters approve a bond referendum for a new school it is the market which builds it.

Perhaps more to the point, the school board should be planning the sensible "depreciation and maintenance" of its physical plant. It is what a good business does, along with producing a quality product at a low cost, with low administrative overhead. Which probably explains why they haven't.

The first research since the mid-1990s comparing the academic progress of students in Milwaukee's precedent-setting private school voucher program with students in Milwaukee Public Schools shows no major differences in success between the two groups.

And we want a voucher system, why?

"How do you think all of these charter schools acquired the properties that some are complaining about?"

They bought them from the Chicago Board of Trade? The New York Stock Exchange leased them in exchange for a branch office?

Markets are simply places where things are bought and sold. Is there a place where you can go to buy Blake school? Is it on the market?

I do see your problem. If you define "market" as everything, then markets are responsible for everything, both good or bad. But markets more reasonably understood don't include everything.

You twist my definition: Market= all voluntary economic transactions. I believe the subject here is why a public school system has failed to properly plan for the maintenance and replacement of its physical plant. The obvious answer is because they have no market incentive to do so. The school district gets paid by the state, or by property taxes, to build whatever they like almost regardless of the need, or the value to their customers. Likewise, they have no incentive to maintain those facilities properly or to plan for them as useful properties over the longer term.

Nevertheless, the facilities are maintained, the grass gets cut. How do you explain that?

We do lots of things that aren't attached to a market incentive.

Sure we do, but is the grass cut on a schedule that minimizes the labor cost, watering schedule, reseeding or any of a dozen other costs associated with this grass? Many public employees try to do a good job as a matter of personal pride, good for them. But that doesn't mean that there is any incentive provided by the system in which they work to do the job well. They get paid the same whether the grass is mowed or not, within reason, and whether the grass grows or dies. (I've actually seen school district employees mowing a field of dust.) In other words, their failure to perform their jobs well, in a cost-efficient manner, has no impact on their employment and, under such conditions, can be expected to perform less well than those whose jobs ARE impacted by competition. You want to argue absolutes, I want to argue relatively.

Does the grass get cut? Yes. Does it get cut properly, at the right time, in the right way, and for the least total cost? It is unlikely, because there are no "accountability measures" by which to know. On the larger issue, is the fact that we now are $40 million "out of whack" in our facilities just a minor oversight, like cutting the grass too short once?

You have to understand Hiram's point of view: The private sector is simply a collection of individuals who funnel money on the way to its rightful owners - government. Any private enterprise is, thus, funded with public money. That it had its creation in the private sector doesn't matter to Hiram because ultimately, the money belongs to the collective. Therefore, any contract which involves more than one person is a province of the government.

Don't you get it?

"Any private enterprise is, thus, funded with public money."

Private schools typically are. And the more public money they take, the more strings they will find attached to it.

Any more strings than are already attached to the public school cartel?

Any more strings than are already attached to the public school cartel?

Probably, but at the very least, all of those.

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